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Ronna
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on: March 16, 2012, 09:17
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Zeke, In response to your thoughts. Thanks. I now have a clearer picture of what happened. I wasn't there and have not listened to the audio recording of the meeting and have not spoken to anyone about this GA. I have been on email with Ten and Marcia, touching on this conundrum but also dealing with other issues that concern us. Here is my take and what I understand occurred - not that my understanding matters one whit.
First - The education group's presentation was interrupted - Not much has been written about that as the start of it all. This was so that Ten could present something to do with the Lummi solidarity issue?
2 - During Ten's (and David's?) presentation Marcia verbally interrputed him by asking to "wrap it up". Perhaps this is because Marcia feels a greater privilege to do this (and was interrupted from a presentation she felt personally invovled with) but maybe also because it has been done by many at GA's with no constraint. This time it is quite different because it is Ten, who can stand up for himself, and Marcia who also has personal strengths and wants to "get it right".
3 - Ten expressed insult and asked for an apology.
4 - Marcia misunderstood to whom the apology should go and thought it was to JAmes Jewell. So she went ahead and tried that which failed because that was not the correct intervention. She then got confused and has tried to work it out with her "elite" group. I think she probably sees them as friends - though in the article you mention - this constitutes an elite.
5 - So the soup is thick and getting thicker. It seems clear (hmmm - really?) that Marcia and Ten need to get together over coffee and work this out without further ado and interruption from others. (this is very similar to your suggestion that Erin and David need to get together to do whatever it takes to get back on track)

It never ceases to amaze me how off track a simple human error can go. It's easy for us "back benchers" to analyze (listen to the audio recording over and over for PROOF), point fingers (Marcia this time but not David, Keryn, CHristina or others who have done far worse to derail a GA), and label (privilege and elite group).

Actually it's kind of humorous that this could have gone so wrong because Marcia thought she should apologize to the Lummi's and she asked for help. The human condition is one of remarkable resilience and this, too, can be overcome.

I'll be at tonight's GA and will see for myself how things are going. As a self-appointed "greeter" I'm going to make a handout from Saul Alinsky about TACTICS. Just for the fun of it and I'm of that elite crowd (an educator) that believes education is good for the masses and knowledge is power.

deanosor
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on: March 16, 2012, 09:20
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Erin, i feel for you. I think everyone who is trying to have David and Kerryn (and anyone else) avoid the responsibility for their actions, can go to hell. Occupy Bellingham is extremely dysfunctional in many different ways, the worst of it is not responding to David abuse of Erin.
I am still working on relevant projects (Mayday and legal at the moment). I do hope the good people i have met in OB will do important work. The fight against the coal terminal is coming up. I think OB has mainly become disrupters, abusers, kooks, and enablers of such. The good people in the group should figure out their priorities like i have figured out mine. If people have important things to work on, i'll be there. You can write me at deanosor@mailup.net.

Wisakedjak
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on: March 16, 2012, 14:52
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Unfortunately, this wasn't simple human error as Ian pointed out, having listened to the audio. The "interruption" of the education working group's announcement wasn't an interruption for the sake of interruption, it was because it was then determined to be an internal issue. I waited patiently for my turn and was interrupted. Now, my overall character has come into question because I spoke up about the incident. My actions in Solidarity with the movement are apparently motivation and reason to question my integrity at large. I don't have anything nice to say about this in response, so, as a show of integrity, I've been restrained in how I speak about this issue. Marcia is not as innocent in all of this as she's been making herself out to be and I'm being unfairly vilified for no reason that I can think of. Plain and simple, this comes down to someone expressing a sense of entitlement and I'm informing you that this stems from unchecked privilege. That's not ad hominem. Thats what it is, I've been on the pointy end of that stick before and I know it when I see it. At any time Marcia could have initiated conversation with me about this topic, but instead she has gone to everyone else she apparently could think of. This is more of a threat to solidarity and the movement than anything I've done. That's not an opinion. That's simple fact. Loose lips sink ships.

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